Next, he addresses some of the conservatives, like Mohsen Rezayee, Mahdavi Kani (he is promised Hashemi's job), Hasan Rohani and Ghalibaf, who had been silent to date about all these events, but who joined the camp of death-seekers for Mousavi, Karoubi, Hashemi and Khatami. Karoubi states that he understands that their statements are based on pressure from above; he draws attention to similar statements made by Abtahi, one of his consultants who was arrested, tortured and forced to make a televised condemnation of Karoubi.