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11 Apr 2012

Why We Need Free Media

Free and independent journalism is under attack. From violent police suppression to corporate media censorship, the need to create and defend movement-based journalism has never been greater - especially as we prepare for May Day and beyond
Free and independent journalism is under attack. From violent police suppression to corporate media censorship, the need...

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7 Apr 2012

Occupy Transit! Revitalize our transit system

Callng mass transit a genuine civil rights issue, the Amalgamated Transit Union (ATU), which represents transit workers across the nation, joined with the Occupy Movement, community organizations and transit riders to demand a revitalization of our transit systems. Citing such problems as "older vehicles, deferred maintenance and longer wait times for overcrowded buses and trains," the ATU was also critical of service cuts and higher fares which have hit working class riders the hardest.
Callng mass transit a genuine civil rights issue, the Amalgamated Transit Union (ATU), which represents transit workers...

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28 Mar 2012

Occupy Wall Street May Actually Be Changing Wall Street Firms

"Banks and financial services firms have now shifted their focus from liquidity and financial performance to customer satisfaction and their own employees," said Scott Tangney, an executive at Makovsky. "The Occupy Wall Street Movement has indicated to firms where they need to be focusing."
"Banks and financial services firms have now shifted their focus from liquidity and financial performance to customer...

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11 Mar 2012

Occupy Wall Street Demands

The Sovereign People's Movement, represented nationally through the people occupying the various Liberty Square locations across this great country, have laid out and democratically submitted and are currently voting on the list of following Demands to then be distilled into one Unified Common demand of the people.
The Sovereign People's Movement, represented nationally through the people occupying the various Liberty Square...
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7 Mar 2012

A New Focus And Direction For The Occupy Wall Street Movement

The Occupy Wall Street movement (OWS) has been evolving over the last few months and I have been observing them with great interest. They began as a seemingly ragtag group of demonstrators but have grown into a very influential movement. OWS has demonstrably raised awareness regarding the growing wealth disparities and corporate malfeasance within the United States and the world. Their commitment to this cause in the face of inclement winter weather, a paucity of amenities, and the growing police crackdowns around the country has been nothing short of inspirational. I myself have wished that I could support them in person on Wall Street. After all, I worked there for 27 years before falling victim to the financial chicanery which took place in those institutions.
The Occupy Wall Street movement (OWS) has been evolving over the last few months and I have been observing them with...

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25 Feb 2012

Occupy the SEC: Former Wall Street Workers Defend Volcker Rule Against Banks’ Anti-Regulatory Push

The latest off-shoot of the Occupy Wall Street movement - Occupy the SEC - has submitted a 325-page comment to the Securities and Exchange Commission that calls on regulators to resist the financial industry's lobbying efforts to water down the Volcker Rule, a section in the Dodd--Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, that aims to prevent large banks from making certain kinds of risky, speculative investments.
The latest off-shoot of the Occupy Wall Street movement - Occupy the SEC - has submitted a 325-page comment to...

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17 Jan 2012

Black pastors urge followers to join Occupy fold

The Rev. Harold Mayberry stood before his First African Methodist Episcopal Church congregation Sunday morning in Oakland and outlined how it was time for members to connect with the Occupy Wall Street movement. Nationally, many African American leaders have acknowledged a disconnect between the Occupy Wall Street movement and the larger black community.
The Rev. Harold Mayberry stood before his First African Methodist Episcopal Church congregation Sunday morning in...

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2 Jan 2012

Will Occupy Movement Be a Force in Electoral Politics?

Bernard Hyland, a software analyst and progressive activist from the Los Angeles area, attends Occupy LA on November 19, 2011 - eleven days before police forcibly expel protestors from their encampment on the City Hall lawn, arresting 290 people in the process. Hyland shares his thoughts on how the Occupy movement could leverage its power with elected officials to reform the existing system, even as it seeks to make deeper, more revolutionary changes to the economic and political order.
Bernard Hyland, a software analyst and progressive activist from the Los Angeles area, attends Occupy LA on November 19,...

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27 Dec 2011

Central Bank Issue

Some say that we don t have a single unifying message but this is only because they don't fully understand what is going on. In fact, we are all trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together and we are even more hopeful because now more of us are uniting and sharing what we know. We are awakening to the shocking realization that central banks owned by private individuals and large corporations actually control the money supply. As unbelievable as it is, many of our governments do not directly control their own money supplies, including the U.S. Federal Reserve, and are therefore not fully in control of the country. Instead, a group of privately-owned central banks and their anonymous owners control it all. Although research shows that many central banks insist on the importance of being independent of government control, it should be noted that throughout the history of central banks, the issue of who directly controls the currency has been hotly debated, especially in the United States. We are ready for change and this requires transparency, and by more than a group of people whose institutions are driven by the financial gain of its relatively small group of owners. The system created in a previous century that is controlled by the few is clearly not working for the many.
Some say that we don t have a single unifying message but this is only because they don't fully understand what is going...

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19 Dec 2011

Occupy Harvard Moves to Next Phase of Action

On December 19, Occupy Harvard will launch the next phase of its occupation, with a focus on moving beyond physical occupation to occupying the hearts and minds of those beyond the university s walls. "Occupy Harvard 2.0 will focus on education, activism, and strengthening the connections between Harvard's Occupy outpost and the world outside our university's gates," said Maggie Gram, a doctoral student in English. It is our hope that with this action, Harvard administration will respond by returning access to the Yard to the larger community it belongs to.
On December 19, Occupy Harvard will launch the next phase of its occupation, with a focus on moving beyond physical...

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18 Dec 2011

Occupy Des Moines demands cut in military spending

A handful of activists went to Obama's nondescript office in a downtown strip mall after larger rallies to mark the three-month anniversary of the Occupy Wall Street movement in New York. They had hoped to read a statement demanding Obama cut military spending by half and "dismantle our U.S. military empire ... so we can create jobs, balance the budget, meet our peoples' needs here and help the human community to heal our dying planet."
A handful of activists went to Obama's nondescript office in a downtown strip mall after larger rallies to mark the...

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13 Dec 2011

Three Founding OWS Members Talk About Our Broken System And How to Fix It

I asked members of Occupy Wall Street to talk about fixing our broken system and their vision for the country. What follows is my interview with Lex Rendon, Ryan Hoffman and Jesse LaGreca, three founding members of OWS who demonstrate a profound understanding of history, government, and the mechanisms for creating a democratic society.
I asked members of Occupy Wall Street to talk about fixing our broken system and their vision for the country. What...

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7 Dec 2011

Why we occupy, reason #324

The monopoly of power by means of violent force must be eliminated immediately and nonviolently - on all fronts. We will not fail. We cannot fail. We must not fail. We demand freedom immediately and the only one who can answer that demand is of course yourself, not an imagined X percent who will ignore your signs, your chanting, your tents and your signed petitions. You were brainwashed into giving your freedom away. You didn't know better. I didn't know better. But now that we have looked behind the curtain we simply no longer have any more excuses. You can decide right now to wake up and take your power back. What the so-called 1 Percent is doing has nothing to do with me. Together we will Occupy.
The monopoly of power by means of violent force must be eliminated immediately and nonviolently - on all fronts. We will...
23 Nov 2011

Where Does Occupy Wall Street Go From Here

This past weekend I participated in a four-hour meeting of Occupy Wall Street activists whose job it is to come up with the vision and goals of the movement. It was attended by 40+ people and the discussion was both inspiring and invigorating. Here is what we ended up proposing as the movement's "vision statement" to the General Assembly of Occupy Wall Street:
This past weekend I participated in a four-hour meeting of Occupy Wall Street activists whose job it is to come up with...

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19 Nov 2011

What the 99 percent can give American soldiers

I would like to submit a request for a different kind of care package, if you don t mind. I would like it, very much, if the American people would do more than camp out in a park, burning effigies of bankers. I would appreciate it if you would please vote in the next election, whether it be presidential, congressional, state, or municipal. I would like you to actually sit down and Google the candidates, and pick the ones that advocate what you advocate. I would like you to sit down with your kids at night and teach them not only how to read the Constitution, but how to understand it.
I would like to submit a request for a different kind of care package, if you don t mind. I would like it, very much, if...

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18 Nov 2011

Obama and Zuccotti Park: What He Didn’t Say

President Barack Obama s spokesman is suggesting the president believes it s up to New York and other municipalities to decide how much force to use in dealing with Occupy Wall Street demonstrations. Spokesman Jay Carney also says Obama hopes the right balance can be reached between protecting freedom of assembly and speech with the need to uphold order and safeguard public health and safety.
President Barack Obama s spokesman is suggesting the president believes it s up to New York and other municipalities to...
18 Nov 2011

Occupying Democracy

The Supreme Court and the political elites have forced you and me into another of those when-in-the-course-of-human-events moments that Jefferson wrote about in the Declaration of Independence. This is a time in which ordinary people are called forth by history to do what our leaders won t: Assert the American people s independence from authoritarian rule by corporate plutocrats.
The Supreme Court and the political elites have forced you and me into another of those...

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18 Nov 2011

The 99%’s Deficit Proposal: How to create jobs, reduce the wealth divide and control spending

The disconnect between Congress and the people is vast. For decades, Congress has been passing laws that benefit the 1%, their campaign donors and big business interests, rather than creating a fair economy that serves all U.S. citizens. With this report Occupy Washington, DC shows that Congress is out of touch with evidence-based solutions, supported by the majority of Americans that can revive the economy, reduce the deficit and wealth divide while create millions of jobs.
The disconnect between Congress and the people is vast. For decades, Congress has been passing laws that benefit the 1%,...
13 Nov 2011

10 Point Education Platform for NYC Public Schools What We Demand!

A group of NYC high school activists called The Resistance from The DreamYard A.C.T.I.O.N Project in the Bronx showed up at the People's University teach-in in Washington Sq. Park today. These young people were a big hit at Occupy DOE on the steps of Tweed last week.
A group of NYC high school activists called The Resistance from The DreamYard A.C.T.I.O.N Project in the Bronx showed up...

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11 Nov 2011

Tell President Obama Don’t sell us out to Wall Street

As thousands are in the streets demanding Wall Street accountability, high-ranking officials in the Obama administration are actively pushing state Attorneys General to cut a terrible deal in the next few weeks with mortgage firms that lets these giant institutions off the hook for what appears to be widespread mortgage and foreclosure fraud. President Obama needs to step in and put a stop to this.
As thousands are in the streets demanding Wall Street accountability, high-ranking officials in the Obama...

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11 Nov 2011

We Don’t Make Demands

The #Occupy movement has frequently been accused, in media coverage, of not having a clearly articulated demand for the outcome of the protests. These posters were designed by participants at the Occupy Wall Street protest in New York City. They are in the public domain. You are welcome to print them out and post them in your own location. You're also invited to make your own.
The #Occupy movement has frequently been accused, in media coverage, of not having a clearly articulated demand for the...

Publisher: Friends of the Earth

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9 Nov 2011

Friends of the Earth U.S. statement in support of Occupy Wall Street

The hope and ambition of the Occupy movement has reminded us that we need to remake financial and economic systems so that they serve people and the planet, not the other way around. We are challenged to consider ways in which we can not only resist market fundamentalism, but help create new models that promote prosperity, social equity and environmental sustainability.
The hope and ambition of the Occupy movement has reminded us that we need to remake financial and economic systems so...

Publisher: The Guardian

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9 Nov 2011

Occupy London protesters issue demands to lord mayor

Occupy London protesters outside St Paul's have put demands to the City of London Corporation which, if accepted, may prompt them to leave the cathedral area. The camp already planned to move further back on Friday to avoid impeding Remembrance Sunday commemorations, but now conceivably might leave entirely at the weekend
Occupy London protesters outside St Paul's have put demands to the City of London Corporation which, if accepted, may...

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9 Nov 2011

POLL: 99 Percent Message Nearly Twice As Popular As Tea Party GOP Message

The current economic structure of the country is out of balance and favors a very small proportion of the rich over the rest of the country. America needs to reduce the power of major banks and corporations and demand greater accountability and transparency. The government should not provide financial aid to corporations and should not provide tax breaks to the rich.
The current economic structure of the country is out of balance and favors a very small proportion of the rich over the...

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6 Nov 2011

Occupy Wall Street Ad to Begin Airing on TV This Weekend

Occupy Wall Street could be occupying your television this weekend. Supporters chipped in more than $6,000 to a crowdfunding campaign that will put a video of protesters explaining their objectives in the commercial lineup of cable television channels.
Occupy Wall Street could be occupying your television this weekend. Supporters chipped in more than $6,000 to a...

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2 Nov 2011

To reiterate: Do not get baited into Left Right debates. It is a distraction.

Get rid of all Left/Right arguments for now. Even if you believe deeply in them. The people united can never be defeated. Do not engage in left/right based discussion. It is a distraction. Focus on getting money out of politics and returning equal voice to the people. That means equal voice for all those that have become disenfranchised. The tea party, OWS, and Everyone who doesn't have a lobbyist. This is largely the goal required by the people of both sides of the spectrum. The only one who is standing in our collective way are the 1% who want to see us fighting each other so they can get back to doing whatever they want.
Get rid of all Left/Right arguments for now. Even if you believe deeply in them. The people united can never be...

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25 Oct 2011

Occupy Movement Wants Koch Brothers Out Of Politics, Marches On Georgia-Pacific HQ

On Saturday, a Connecticut branch of the growing Occupy Wall Street movement took their protest to GE CEO Jeff Immelt s front lawn. Now, an Atlanta affiliate is targeting two even higher-profile members of the 1%: America s richest brothers, Charles and David Koch.
On Saturday, a Connecticut branch of the growing Occupy Wall Street movement took their protest to GE CEO Jeff Immelt s...

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20 Oct 2011

Occupy Together Takes Shape: Prosecute the Wall Street Mafia!

The mainstream media won't say this, or acknowledge it, but OWS is evolving a serious list of demands. Good ones; demands that will give answers and explanations and will lead to conclusions. Dave DeGraw and Bill Black are brilliant and eloquent. This is a demand that will scare the shit out of TPTB.
The mainstream media won't say this, or acknowledge it, but OWS is evolving a serious list of demands. Good ones;...

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15 Oct 2011

Eliot Spitzer: Why Occupy Wall Street Has Already Won

Occupy Wall Street has already won, perhaps not the victory most of its participants want, but a momentous victory nonetheless. It has already altered our political debate, changed the agenda, shifted the discussion in newspapers, on cable TV, and even around the water cooler. And that is wonderful.
Occupy Wall Street has already won, perhaps not the victory most of its participants want, but a momentous victory...

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14 Oct 2011

‘Occupy Wall Street’ — It’s Not What They’re for, But What They’re Against

Sure, bank executives may work a lot harder than you and me or a mother of three doing checkout at a grocery store. Maybe the bankers work ten times harder. Maybe even a hundred times harder. But they re compensated a thousand times more.
Sure, bank executives may work a lot harder than you and me or a mother of three doing checkout at a grocery store....
14 Oct 2011

What the GOP Must Do: Finding Common Ground With the Occupiers

Most of us actually think the deck is stacked these days against entrepreneurs and that it was done so by bipartisan coalitions. Most of us do think the deck is stacked against the little guy. It is not, however, that the top 1% stacked the deck against the rest of us. It is that the government, in its expansion of the nanny-state, drove up costs to everyone and only the rich had the capital to overcome it.
Most of us actually think the deck is stacked these days against entrepreneurs and that it was done so by bipartisan...
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14 Oct 2011

Will Occupy Wall Street Succeed?

OWS is not the Brookings Institution. But its implicit grievances are plain enough: the mass pain of mass unemployment, underemployment, and economic insecurity; the corrupting, pervasive political influence of big money; the outrageous, rapidly growing inequality of wealth and income; the impunity of the financial-industry scammers whose greed and fraud precipitated the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression; a broken political system hobbled by a Republican right willing and usually able to block any measures, however timid and partial, that might relieve the suffering.
OWS is not the Brookings Institution. But its implicit grievances are plain enough: the mass pain of mass unemployment,...
12 Oct 2011

My Advice to the Occupy Wall Street Protesters

The time is rapidly approaching when the movement is going to have to offer concrete solutions to the problems posed by Wall Street. To do that, it will need a short but powerful list of demands. There are thousands one could make, but I'd suggest focusing on five:
The time is rapidly approaching when the movement is going to have to offer concrete solutions to the problems posed by...
10 Oct 2011

ANALYSIS: ‘Occupy Wall Street’ should also take aim at health insurance companies

The lobbyists for U.S. health insurers surely have to be feeling a little uneasy knowing that thousands of Occupy Wall Street demonstrators who have been marching and protesting in Washington as well as New York and other cities might target them in the days ahead.
The lobbyists for U.S. health insurers surely have to be feeling a little uneasy knowing that thousands of Occupy Wall...

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8 Oct 2011

My 3 Demands

The corporate media has recently criticized the #OccupyWallStreet movement for not articulating specific demands. Here are my Top 3, please respond to this video with YOUR TOP 3 DEMANDS or leave in the comments
The corporate media has recently criticized the #OccupyWallStreet movement for not articulating specific demands. Here...
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8 Oct 2011

Protesters Against Wall Street

The message - and the solutions - should be obvious to anyone who has been paying attention since the economy went into a recession that continues to sock the middle class while the rich have recovered and prospered. The problem is that no one in Washington has been listening.
The message - and the solutions - should be obvious to anyone who has been paying attention since the economy went into...

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7 Oct 2011

Stop Military Recruiters from having easy access to our children!!!

October is OPT OUT Month! Stop Military Recruiters from having easy access to our children!!! Help leaflet local high schools to inform students and their parents of their right to OPT OUT of giving their private information to military recruiters.
October is OPT OUT Month! Stop Military Recruiters from having easy access to our children!!! Help leaflet local high...

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6 Oct 2011

Capitalism++ #OccupyWallStreet Official Demands, MLK on #BasicIncome A Reasoned Response to Accelerating Structural Inequality #99percent

Industrial Era Capitalism was great for the PAST and it worked in that context; however, today we are obliged to build a system for the NEXT 50, 100, 200 years; bringing to bear the best of our collective intelligence, quantitative rigor, and intuitive forecasting capabilities, moving forward. For more than 50 years America's best and brightest have called for unconditional #BasicIncome. It's time to join them. Here's why
Industrial Era Capitalism was great for the PAST and it worked in that context; however, today we are obliged to build a...

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6 Oct 2011

Dear Moveon.org

This poster is a message from Occupy Wall Street organizer to moveon.org saying that #ows is non partisan, don't co-opt us
This poster is a message from Occupy Wall Street organizer to moveon.org saying that #ows is non partisan, don't co-opt...
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6 Oct 2011

Naomi Klein: Protesters Are Seeking Change in the Streets Because It Won’t Come From the Ballot Box

"My biggest fear was that the Obama presidency was was going to lead this generation of young people into political cynicism and political apathy," Klein says. "But instead, they are going to where the power is. They are realizing the change is not coming in Washington because politicians are so controlled by corporate interest, and that that is the fundamental crisis in this country."
"My biggest fear was that the Obama presidency was was going to lead this generation of young people into political...
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6 Oct 2011

Occupy DC protesters voice their demands

"I want the bankers who screwed this up to be prosecuted," he explained. "Did you know -- this generation is the first one that'll be less educated than its parents? Now, why is that? We're cutting everything.  We've made it too expensive. $30,000 for school and you can't find a job." So he wanted tax hikes? "When Eisenhower was in there, the top tax rate was 91 percent. Bob Hope was the richest man in America, and he made a $1 million, paid taxes on 75 percent. And that was so bad?"
"I want the bankers who screwed this up to be prosecuted," he explained. "Did you know -- this generation is the first...
6 Oct 2011

Occupy Wall Street: The Most Important Thing in the World Now

We all know, or at least sense, that the world is upside down: we act as if there is no end to what is actually finite - fossil fuels and the atmospheric space to absorb their emissions. And we act as if there are strict and immovable limits to what is actually bountiful - the financial resources to build the kind of society we need. The task of our time is to turn this around: to challenge this false scarcity. To insist that we can afford to build a decent, inclusive society - while at the same time, respect the real limits to what the earth can take.
We all know, or at least sense, that the world is upside down: we act as if there is no end to what is actually finite -...

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4 Oct 2011

How the Occupy Wall Street Protesters Can Defeat the Corporate Elite

We wouldn't be on Wall Street if we didn't already have an implicitly unifying message: We hold the banks, the millionaires, and the political elite they control, responsible for the exploitation and oppression we face -- from capitalism, racism and authoritarianism to imperialism, patriarchy and environmental degradation. We have a diversity of grievances, complaints, demands, principles, and visions, but it is clear that we have planted ourselves in the financial capital of the world because we see it as one of the most deeply entrenched roots of the various systems of oppression we face every day. The clue is in the title: Occupy Wall Street.
We wouldn't be on Wall Street if we didn't already have an implicitly unifying message: We hold the banks, the...

Publisher: The Nation

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4 Oct 2011

Occupy Wall Street FAQ

I hear that Adbusters organized Occupy Wall Street? Or Anonymous? Or US Day of Rage? Just who put this together anyway?
I hear that Adbusters organized Occupy Wall Street? Or Anonymous? Or US Day of Rage? Just who put this together anyway?

Publisher: The Washington Post

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4 Oct 2011

What Occupy DC wants: Less corporate money in politics

Occupy Wall Street is still a nascent, amorphous protest movement without a specific policy agenda. But in the movement s DC offshoot, one target has begun to come into focus: the outsized role of corporate money in politics.
Occupy Wall Street is still a nascent, amorphous protest movement without a specific policy agenda. But in the movement...
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3 Oct 2011

Here’s a demand: forgive student loan debt

As the Occupy Wall Street protest enters its third straight week in New York and continues spreading all across the country, what is abundantly clear is that "the other 99%" - as opposed to the super-wealthy 1% who've been coddled for decades under the failed economic premise that cutting their taxes and providing them with countless tax shelters, loopholes and other breaks will "trickle down" to the masses - are simply fed up with the status quo. So they are doing the one thing within their power to make their voices heard.
As the Occupy Wall Street protest enters its third straight week in New York and continues spreading all across the...

Publisher: NYC General Assembly

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30 Sep 2011

Declaration of the Occupation of New York City

As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.
As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us...
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28 Sep 2011

Proposed list of demands

#Occupywallstreet will come up with a list of demands for the congress of the united states - these demands will be presented to congress - if congress doen't pass these demands within 3 days of sumission we will block the entrance to congress with non-violent action to force negotiations
#Occupywallstreet will come up with a list of demands for the congress of the united states - these demands will be...
28 Sep 2011

Detailed list of Demands and overview of tactics

BELOW THIS BRIEF INTRODUCTION is a numbered "LIST OF PROPOSED DEMANDS" we would make in DC.  These would not be empty demands.  They would be made in the context of engaging in non-violent direct action / peaceful non-resistance, proven tactics that produce real results.
BELOW THIS BRIEF INTRODUCTION is a numbered "LIST OF PROPOSED DEMANDS" we would make in DC.  These...
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18 Sep 2011

Do We Really Need Congress Anymore?

Alright. You have a bunch of guys and gals who make very good money and get great health insurance and pensions and perks are able to publish books and go on television and parlay connections into making even more money and then we ask them to vote and put the people first and not their own jobs. Right. That's going to happen. Not in this I got mine economy.
Alright. You have a bunch of guys and gals who make very good money and get great health insurance and pensions and...
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